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I know this is a community orientated wiki, but I think we should lock some pages so that new & unregistered users can't edit on them. I am sick to death of correcting stupid mistakes & removing random links. I made a blog about this, but I'm not sure whether they will read it or not.
I thought about this before, mostly locking the Shadow of Mordor page, Talion and the Wraith, but I dunno we should probably do this closer to release since that's when most of the new members stream in and vandals do, of course.
I say keep it admin only, for the time being. While we're at it I also locked the main game page, because those big pages are usually the larges target for mistaken edits and vanadalism. Although if you think this is inappropriate, feel free to unlock it.
We shouldn't be locking those pages for registered users only, as we're a wiki after all which means that people should be able to edit by creating an account. If a user makes bad edits we can always tell him to stop.
They do have errors in them yes, but I don't think that should be the sole deciding factor here, since every article under the sun has errors here or there, I just don't think those pages are so overrided with problems and traffick to warrant a lock.
But hey, it is for registered users too, so it's not too big a deal.
I just had a few things to point out about our main page here.
-The Inhabitants tab needs to be updated. It is confusing to the new memebers to the wikia, some of the Inhabitants make sense such as the Uruk and Graugs. But we should move Talion, Gollum, Wraith (Celebrimbor) and Sauron into a different tab maybe? Since they are main characters!
With the new discovery that The Wraith is Celebrimbor, I set to work revamping it. And I noticed that there is a category called Wraiths (likely made by an anon or a new user). I've deleted the category page, but I can't seem to delete the category on the page, as it isn't showing up. Any chance you could give me a hand?
I don't think there's much use in classifying him as a "Wraith" rather than "Undead". Sure, Wraith is a form of Undead, but seeing as there's (probably?) only a single Wraith in the entire game, I think we're better off grouping him under Undead.
And yes, looks like one of our staff members reverted some of the changes. I'm investigating it now.
Please be patient for some time. You stumbled upon a rather touchy subject and this was just temporarily removed. You can always re-instate older versions of an article by going through the history of the article.
Your work was not destroyed, merely replaced. It will all make sense soon ;)
Hello Mark, I'm sorry that I come so late with this, I accidentally discovered this today.
The Nazgûl did re-emerged around TA 1300. They besieges Minas Ithil (led by the Witch-king) in TA 2000, they captured Minas Ithil and renamed the fortress as Minas Morgul in TA 2002. And the events of The Hobbit were set in the years TA 2941 and TA 2942.
With other words, the Nazgûl were return to Middle-earth and they aptured Minas Ithil, long before the events of The Hobbit.
This means that Minas Ithil is renamed as Minas Morgul already, and if Minas Morgul will appear in the game. Then there is a very big chance that all the nine Nazgûl will appear as well. Because when Sauron returned to Mordor, they were all waiting in Minas Morgul for a order of their master.
When you read this, is it then possible for you to bring this to the developers. If they want to make a canon story in Tolkien's universe with Shadow of Mordor, then it's very important that they know this.
I'm sure that they're aware of the existence and timeline of the Nazgûls, however, that does not mean that the Nazgûl have to appear in the game. Until we have absolute confirmation that they're in the game because they've either appeared in a trailer or we've seen them in the game, I don't think it's necessary to have a page on them.
We can rename Minas Ithil back to Minas Morgul (even though it was to referred to as Ithil in the stream) until we have confirmation on what exactly it's called, but aside from that I think we're better off waiting and seeing.
The information that I gave to you, I found that on various articles from The One Wiki to Rule Them All. There are on that wiki many people who have very much knowledge about Tolkien's work, that's why I am sure that the information is reliable.
I have unfortunately not the time to say more, right now. But I will come back when I have the time to give more of my point.
Not necessarily, as the game does take place in the movie universe rather than book universe *or some combination there of*, so nothing's for certain until we get a 100% confirmation. Its how it is in Tolkien's books/lore, but we don't know exactly the status of Shadow of Mordor in continuity.
Blah that's enough of me prying on other people's wall. xP
Thanks that you say that to the Joker, Mark, this is something between you and me. Although, maybe the Joker is right about the way that developers choose for the story of the game, I have to admit that it is a good point of him.
I do just feel myself bad by the idea if the Nazgûl (Sauron's most loyal and most powerful minions) complete don't will appear in the game.
As I say you before, Agunduir and I do have very good ideas about what will happen if the player of the game does travel to Minas Morgul, including face all the nine Nazgûl there. It would never be the intention that Talion and Celebrimbor (the Wraith) do travel to Minas Morgul in the canon storyline.
Just that travel to Minas Morgul and face the Nazgûl there (with Khamûl as the second final boss and the Witch-king as the final boss of that location, and after the Witch-king is killed, the curse on the fortress is broken and Minas Ithil again), that it's completely optional, as you can make your own story in Shadow of Mordor. I do so looking forward to the game and I have high expectations for the final result.
Personally, I would prefer Minas Ithil/Minas Morgul and the Nazgûl in the game on the way as I said here now. But I would even be happy enough if that location with the events to face the Nazgûl only is unlockable as DLC. Can you tell this idea to the developers. I am sure that I, Agunduir, you (if you will play the game too) and so many other players of the game will be very happy with the chance to do that in the game, kill all the nine Nazgûl on a realistic way and free Minas Ithil from the curse that has made it Minas Morgul. What do you think about this, Mark?
Me and elve also talked about that. We agreed to give him a week some of his comments are unnecessary and he gives false information such as one comment "the wraith new talion could use a bow so the wraith uses it when he needs to" which is inaccurate- althought the kid is very young oi believe a warning should be acceptable
Let me guess. I need to shut up and stop badge hunting. I get the badge hunting and stuff but why do people complain? Can i improve that or should i just stop saying anything at all? I thought this was the page where you share your thoughts and ideas. And answear the questions as you can best. Is it my english maybe? I'm from Denmark so i might confuse the people that i try to help my saying something wrong. Oh! And is there a page where i can learn the rules and stuff about this page proper? Or are you just picking on me since that's the only things i got from The.Outsider. The Joker~ seems a bit more nice. I would love to stay on this Web page Wiki since i like it. You can share your thoughts and read on others. And What Do You Mean By "Major"?
You are free to share youre thoughts and opinions! Just when you post an irrelevant comment in a thread that has nothing to do the tooic ( your comment with the song lyrics) and then giving false information (wraith abilities-see above) it isnt helping our community or its members especially when people are seeking answers. The comment aabout the wraith and the bow is false - admins can see everything from comments to threads. If you aren't sure about something come to us and we can help you !
Did i ever give that information out? I WOULD NEVER GIVE OUT FALSE INFORMATION! I just noticed that my friend has been on. He has been given false information and chatting with people. I'm very sorry for what has happend. I truly respect the rules that someone needs to tell me properly. Sorry again this will not happen again.
Unfortunately enough an argument such as "my friend did it" or "my brother did it" is very hard to believe, as many have tried to use this excuse in the past and accepting it would set a bad precedent. After all, accepting it would mean that we'd have no other choice but to believe other users as well when they use this excuse, basically giving everyone a get out of jail free card.
As Glóin has stated, you're more than welcome to participate in this community by adding useful information to our pages and joining in forum discussions. However, do try to avoid excessively posting and responding on blogs and forum threads and making posts that are completely unrelated to these threads. Continuing to do so will result in consequences, but as long as you promise to stop this sort of behavior you may continue to edit on this wikia.
I knew this was going to happen but i've never been good at preparing for it. I usally predict most comments that will come against me. I knew from the very beginning that this was going to happend. In fact just when i signed in. It's unusual that something will come that i didn't know unless i get the Unusual thing to happen by myself. My friend did it is hard to believe but it is the only thing i could stick to. Everyone EVERYONE would do the same. I know that my speech of knowing things that will come up before others know it is soryy but shitty. In fact you might be laughing right now. But let me add a question then. Why is badge hunting against the rules? I'm sure The.Outsider the Joke and a lot of other people did and will do the same. It's harmless so let people do it. It can be annoying if someone did what i did like DERP DERP DERP. I do say that, that was my work. Unless you give me a reason just as big as the three books Lord of The Rings together. Then i'll consider accepting it. But i just don't get it. Abusement of power? I am not saying that you abuse anything at all trust me, i've met bigger again sorry Assholes that abuse their power of admins and creators and many other so called "Rights" they can use against you. I've always liked the Three Chances Rule. Mainly because i only got one chance and still got kicked/banned/EvenHacked three times. Now, don't get me wrong. I did understand why i got kicked on that first chance. But it is still abusement kicking me. And i want to know two things. If you could answear them it will be really helpful for me and many others. 1. When you set up the new "Profilers" on this website tell them the most importent rules? Or at least just give them a better chance to check out the rules? 2. I don't know about you guys. But i and i believe many others hate that they don't know how many people is on/active on this website. I would really like and this may be a personal question to the creater of this website. Can you show people how many other people are on? It would be helpful for us to contact and talk to other people. I also would like for that message maybe to go public to help a lot of other people. And yes i do promis that i'll keep my mouth shut for a very long time. As goes for my "Hardly Believed Friend". The chat system is not perfect either and i'm not just finding fails and i am trying to tell you this as nicely as could be. Please update and make some more prior changes on this website it would make this website a "Better Place". Sorry my words are not that intelligent. I'm from Denmark so i'm not the best at English doe' i know a lot. Give me a Danish person and i will have a fair fight, fighting for my own course and the others. But i am going to leave this Conversation from now on i'll Act better. Peace?
And you'll prabably never know. The human mind is a really big pain in the butterhole. Maybe we could learn more about each other and then we'll become friends. Don't tell me admins dosen't have friends. :)
Oh and btw. You did not answear my two questions because you probably didn't read all of it. Can i contact the creater of this website myself or do i need to talk to an admin to make changes or just having ideas for this website itself? I want an answear from the Creater himself or you can just leave me hanging.